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so Bryce it's been a very interesting few weeks\h
here in the United States so I've since I spoke\h\h

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to you well you've been on the last cold part\h
of America Tour summer 22 and I I can say that\h\h

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you've been to some very interesting places I've\h
been actually working on a screenplay I've been\h\h

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hired to write about how the world will change\h
after we all understand that we're not alone I\h\h

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have to tell you it sure seems like reality\h
is catching up with my fiction at this point\h\h

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you're not wrong I mean I had the most incredible\h
conversation with Professor Gary Nolan yesterday\h\h

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at Stanford University and he told me how he\h
is absolutely certain that there is an alien\h\h

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presence on planet Earth I mean you can't be more\h
definitive than that and and he also said to me\h\h

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categorically that he thinks that the United\h
States government is involved in a cover-up\h\h

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well breathtaking as as you've said from the\h
beginning you've always known about the cover-up\h\h

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I think I felt the same way the question has\h
been exactly what are they covering up but I\h\h

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think that the the world is starting to see that\h
because while you were in DC uh interviewing\h\h

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Timber Chet which I think was a fascinating\h
interview and I'm I'm really glad that you got it\h\h

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um the Senate side of Congress has really made\h
a lot of waves while you've been running around\h\h

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I mean it's unbelievable this law I mean to\h
be able to speak to the Congress people and\h\h

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and Senators it was just breathtaking to hear\h
what they're doing the proposed legislation\h\h

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is mind-blowing in its implications it's it's\h
potentially going it's going right back to 1947.\h\h

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well exactly I mean this is the Senate Intel\h
committee uh which has basically uh criticized\h\h

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the Pentagon and says that for what they've done\h
or not done about investigating the phenomena and\h\h

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has literally said that UFOs are exponentially\h
increasing while making clear that its new office\h\h

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is not going to be investigating quote man-made\h
objects which leaves the big question what exactly\h\h

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will it be investigating and that that is uh\h
pretty fascinating the other thing that that\h\h

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um language see this is the language that\h
came literally from Senator Mark Warner\h\h

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who is the head of the committee trying to\h
explain everything and it just lays out so\h\h

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many incredible things among them um there is\h
language about immunity for Witnesses uh it\h\h

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does ask them to go back to 1947 which you and\h
I have talked about at length on this podcast\h\h

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um it says there's a new guy in charge of the\h
committee it says the committee has a new name\h\h

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it's the man-made thing we were were talking\h
about and then there's a few little nuggets in\h\h

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there Ross that just kind of blow the Mind where\h
they say they want the investigation to focus on\h\h

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quote technology surprise and quote unknown\h
unknowns absolutely it can be more clear and\h\h

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what I understand is that this has come about\h
because of the classified briefings that have\h\h

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already been given to politicians in the Congress\h
and their starters there's something that they've\h\h

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seen there's evidence that they've been shown that\h
they're still not allowed to talk about which has\h\h

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completely transformed the attitude of politicians\h
I I was really struck by not only just by talking\h\h

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to Tim burchett but really struck by talking to\h
people in and around the Congress there's been\h\h

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a real change of mood there's an impatience and\h
indeed an anger with the Pentagon and defense and\h\h

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intelligence Community because they've basically\h
been dragging the chain they've been too slow\h\h

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to respond to the laws that were passed by the\h
Congress in the defense Appropriations late last\h\h

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year and frankly they just haven't done their job\h
they haven't responded to what the Congress asked\h\h

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and so now they're being hit with this proposed\h
new legislation which is like a sledgehammer\h\h

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it's it's quite breathtaking see what they're\h
proposing you've you've started by talking about\h\h

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the the sense of a cover-up well for years and\h
years Congress was part of that cover-up refusing\h\h

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to have hearings and and poo pooing anybody who\h
ever stated they had an open mind on the issue\h\h

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and that all seems to have changed or at least it\h
has changed among the people in Congress who have\h\h

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had those briefings and I agree with you uh from\h
taking a look at the language in this explanatory\h\h

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report you see people that are pretty irritated\h
and they're they want some more answers and why\h\h

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would they want them well not based on the public\h
hearings that you and I have seen but clearly\h\h

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these people have gotten the classified hearings\h
and they have seen and heard and been told things\h\h

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that have made them impatient to the maximum\h
and more than a little pissed off that they're\h\h

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not getting from the Department of Defense what\h
they need in order to basically keep keep things\h\h

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safe this is all about uh safety of flight and\h
things like that they're they're worried about\h\h

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National Security and there's also a spit in\h
the eye there for the notion that was pushed\h\h

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by the two intelligence officials on May 17 and\h
the public hearings in Congress to the idea that\h\h

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this could plausibly be explained completely as\h
drones I noticed that the um the the terminology\h\h

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and the proposed new legislation it refers to\h
non-man-made objects as being the focus of the\h\h

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investigation which is a specific rebuttal to the\h
idea that this might be able to be explained away\h\h

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as drones that to me is quite extraordinary it\h
is extraordinary and let's face it if you start\h\h

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breaking out non-man-made objects in language that\h
is coming from a U.S Senate intelligence committee\h\h

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that raises questions I just don't think there's\h
any way that there's a way to look at this and say\h\h

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we ought not to be taking this so seriously folks\h
don't worry about it nothing to see here clearly\h\h

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there is something to see here I wanted to though\h
be because I know you've been traveling and I've\h\h

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been you know while I've been chained to my desk\h
and and uh following all this I know that you've\h\h

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been talking to some very interesting people I\h
wanted to ask you most about burchett Burchette\h\h

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seems to me to be the most outspoken person\h
in Congress and yet he is not necessarily the\h\h

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most influential he's on the house side of things\h
the action seems to be going on in the Senate is\h\h

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that is that your read as well four words Bryce\h
it's a cover-up nicely done nicely said it is\h\h

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a cover-up uh but it doesn't seem like Burchette\h
has the um it doesn't have the positioning right\h\h

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now to make the changes that some of the people\h
in the Senate are saying he he doesn't but he's\h\h

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a vote and the interest is he's very close to\h
senior Republicans and what I thought was the\h\h

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case was that was this was just coming from the\h
Democrat side but it's really interesting there\h\h

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is a rump of Republicans Marco Rubio is one of\h
them who are very determined to get answers on\h\h

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this and frankly the reason why they're determined\h
is because they can see votes in it you know they\h\h

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know the American public feel that they've been\h
snowed they've had the wall pulled over their\h\h

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eyes and I think they've realized too that\h
there's been deliberate misinformation to\h\h

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the Congress uh when you when you're presented\h
as they have been with these classified videos\h\h

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that show things that are far beyond known human\h
technology and frankly it can't be explained by\h\h

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it at foreign adversary technology or some\h
secret corporate technology here in America\h\h

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what's the alternative and the the interesting\h
thing is the alternative is alien the alternative\h\h

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is that this is a non-human intelligence and\h
that's where Professor Gary Nolan really rocked my\h\h

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boat he he basically said yes he thinks there is\h
a non-human intelligence operating on this planet\h\h

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and he thinks it's only a matter of time before\h
the U.S government admits that so it's not like\h\h

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we've been looking out there for the answer to\h
are we alone but the answer May really be down\h\h

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here where we are you know you used four words\h
just a couple of minutes ago I got two words for\h\h

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you but it may only be one word and that's how\h
I look at Washington DC on the UAP UFO issue and\h\h

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that is bipartisan so I don't know one word too\h
not sure but bipartisan seems to be what's going\h\h

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on on this issue and isn't it fascinating at a\h
time when the United States of America could not\h\h

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be more evenly divided I mean if you took the\h
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red half blue but on this issue this incredible\h
issue of whether we are alone in the universe\h\h

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and whether there is an alien intelligence here\h
on Earth interfering with us right now there is\h\h

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bipartisan agreement coming out of the Senate and\h
that house that it is time to get these answers\h\h

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before the American people it's a very very\h
exciting but also important time to be alive\h\h

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now let's talk about Jim Malin because I haven't\h
got much time I've got to go something else but\h\h

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um Jim's the guy from Texas who has a bull in\h
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he thinks I'm not saying it is but he thinks\h
it's alien technology you know I saw that Ross\h\h

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and I have to tell you I mean you and I both\h
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specifics on the big picture I think we agree\h
there is a cover-up and and somebody's covering\h\h

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up something on this on the specific picture\h
when you go to Marlin's case it's sort of like\h\h

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you gotta say they show me just show me the money\h
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you're doing I think that's what Gary Nolan is\h
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realize something that is uh I think we have to\h
deal with and that is there was a quote from a\h\h

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physicist at the turn of the last century and he\h
said the universe is not only stranger than we\h\h

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imagined it is stranger than we can imagine so\h
if there are little alien balls running around\h\h

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Texas and in people's homes being picked up by the\h
government and deactivated or whatever is going on\h\h

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yeah it's strange but it's not Stranger Than I\h
can imagine I can imagine even stranger and I\h\h

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bet that's what the answers are well the good\h
news mate is that Professor Nolan an eminent\h\h

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immunologist and an eminent scientist in his own\h
right he's actually a Nobel nominee by the way\h\h

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um he is prepared to investigate and uh he's\h
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spectrometer testing on the scrapings that we've\h
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eventually we'll be able to get a scan done of\h
the object to see inside it and as as Jim said\h\h

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to me he said he'd be happier than everyone else\h
to know just definitively whether it is or it\h\h

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isn't because I think that's he's probably been\h
waiting many years for that look I know we're\h\h

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running out of time so I just wanted to drive us\h
to the end of this thing you and I started on a\h\h

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journey we got in my car we drove up the coast\h
we talked to people we've broken some stories\h\h

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you've gone off on your own I've done some\h
investigation on my own it's been a process\h\h

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that we have both been involved in and uh it's\h
been a fascinating one my question is is there\h\h

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any takeaway for the both of us to what we've\h
been through over the last month there is for me\h\h

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I detect a significant change of mood from the\h
leaders on the side of the people pushing for\h\h

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transparency they're more optimistic than I've\h
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that there really is as you say a bipartisan\h
willingness in the Congress to get to the truth\h\h

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and I see a confidence from my off the Record\h
sources and my on record sources that there\h\h

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are going to be whistleblowers coming before\h
the Congress very soon certainly in private\h\h

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hearings giving evidence of what I'm told\h
are quote Legacy UFO programs end quote\h\h

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it's amazing listen here's my takeaway um while\h
you've been doing the last leg of this journey and\h\h

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and doing such a fine job with it as I said I've\h
been locked in a struggle with the script about\h\h

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how the world will change after we acknowledge\h
that we're not alone and I have to tell you\h\h

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um for years people have assumed that the world\h
will just completely freak out and fall apart\h\h

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when that day comes and so I've had to try to get\h
my own head wrapped around what you and I have\h\h

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been talking about when it's a widely accepted\h
thing how are people going to take it I used to\h\h

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be a little more pessimistic I used to believe\h
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people are going to completely freak out now I\h
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I don't know whether it was by Design or not but\h
the the idea that we're not alone and that that\h\h

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some intelligence is here now has been coming\h
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been opened up a little bit of of recent time and\h
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not going to say that people aren't going to run\h
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when some announcement is made they probably will\h
but will we get through it will we be stronger as\h\h

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a species I think yes and I also think my final\h
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I I have been talking about are true and are\h
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a time where they will accept it and it may be the\h
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parties together not only in the United States\h
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the world this may be the ultimate Hail Mary for\h
Humanity and I certainly hope it is I hope you're\h\h

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right too mate listen I've got a rush I'd like\h
to talk to you I'll briefly back in Australia\h\h

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looking forward to it talk to you later we need\h
to know Bryce we do need to know mate that was\h\h